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defense at the sean diddy combs trial, grilling the prosecution's star witness. the mogul's ex-girlfriend, cassie ventura. >> these defense attorneys wanted to cast doubt, reasonable doubt on her credibility. >> directing her to read explicit texts she sent the rapper. >> the defense is hoping the jury sees enthusiasm on the part of cassie ventura, a willingness and eagerness to participate. >> and diddy's friend of 35 years in court every day. >> he's not a sex trafficker. i know that he's not a racketeering boss. i know that. >> the shocker is in the courtroom and why actor michael b jordan's name came up at trial. plus, the red hot show stopping traffic. >> sunset boulevard, ruthless boulevard, destination for the stony hearted. >> tony nominated sunset boulevard star tom francis, going viral for his nightly broadway showstopper in times square. >> sunset boulevard it's been a wild ride. >> what it's like playing the love interest of nicole
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evening. thank you for
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joining us. a contentious day in the trial of sean diddy combs, with the defense putting the mogul's now ex-girlfriend, cassie ventura, under cross-examination. and just a warning. this story contains accounts, descriptions and visual content of actual and alleged events that some may find disturbing. in a new york city courtroom, star witness cassie ventura took the stand for the third day in the sex trafficking and racketeering conspiracy case against her former boyfriend, hip hop mogul sean diddy combs. cassie was grilled for six hours by the defense, trying to paint a picture that she was a willing participant in the alleged freak offs that are central to the prosecution's case. >> the whole point of the cross-examination was to get jurors to believe that cassie ventura was not a victim of sex trafficking. she may have been the victim of domestic violence or assault, but they were hoping
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to raise doubt in the minds of jurors that there could have been other reasons. cassie ventura engaged in the sexual conduct she did. >> combs lawyer, anna estevao, leading the cross-examination, estevao said to make him happy. you told him that you wanted to do freak offs, right? cassie replied. no, there's a lot more to that festival. going through old texts and confronting cassie with a message from august 2009, in which she told combs, i'm always ready to freak off lol lol. the defense, reading another of cassie's messages suggesting she became reluctant only when she felt, in her words, quote, dirty and grimy, as opposed to sensual and spontaneous, going on to say, i get nervous that i'm just becoming the girlfriend that you get your fantasies off with, and that's it. >> the cross-examination did meander and appear to get bogged down at times. the whole defense is that cassie was not coerced into this kind of sexual activity. so the defense is
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hoping the jury in those text messages sees enthusiasm on the part of cassie ventura, a willingness and eagerness to participate in the kind of lifestyle that sean combs was leading. >> they wanted to cast doubt, reasonable doubt on her credibility, and they wanted to cast these encounters as consensual encounters. and there is evidence to support that notion that they were in this relationship, that she agreed to this swinging lifestyle. >> the defense questioning cassie about texts she sent to combs on the day this video was recorded, showing diddy beating and dragging her after she allegedly tried to escape a freak off. i want to freak out so bad, but don't want to expletive myself up. what am i to do? the defense trying to suggest the freak off could be cassie's idea. >> even though the text messages appear to be friendly, the sex appears to be consensual. over a decades long relationship that
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there can still be evidence of sexual abuse and sex trafficking, sex crimes, and sexual trafficking are generally the result of grooming by a defendant, someone that continues to push boundaries and make behavior that is coercive, that is non-consensual, appear to be normal. >> another theme the defense pushed throughout the day jealousy. >> defense attorney anna estevez got ventura to agree she could be jealous. cassie ventura said she had some jealousy of kim porter, the mother of four of combs children. she wanted to be the one to develop a relationship with his family that she did not have. >> cassie was asked about a moment at a freak off, where combs went through her phone and discovered she had been cheating on him with rapper kid cudi, whose real name is scott mescudi. estevao asked cassie, did you feel justified in cheating on him with mr. moscati because of mr. combs infidelities? cassie answering, i could have possibly. i don't
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know. >> that jealousy cut two ways. cassie ventura talked about some pretty scary arguments she had with sean combs over her infidelity with rapper kid cudi. combs was violent towards her for reasons having nothing to do with sex, but because of jealousy and infidelity. >> in 2015, when cassie was filming honey three, she learned combs was dating another woman, so she began a relationship with actor michael b jordan. cassie testifying, i was definitely angry. yeah. cassie is expected to take the stand again tomorrow. >> the judge wants her finished with her testimony by the end of friday, after federal prosecutors told him that she could give birth as soon as this weekend. >> combs has pled not guilty and denies all charges in court. combs, his mother and his three sons, sitting through a fourth day of graphic, lurid testimony. combs support system extending beyond family as well, including friend of 35 years carlucci finnie, now a member of diddy's
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inner circle, defending his friend. >> your friend sean combs, 1,000%. now, how would you describe your relationship? >> godbrother close friend? >> now, when you. >> say friend, if i may ask, you're from brooklyn. i'm from baltimore. this is a baltimore question. absolutely. when you say friend, friend or on the payroll friend. >> i never received a dollar from him as a payroll. that's my brother. blood mickey related. but loyalty makes you family. >> carlucci says he shows up to court every day, rain or shine, often wearing a free puff hoodie. >> yeah, i'm ashamed of him. i love him out loud. i'm not going to hide it. >> i understand that in court they used guys sometimes exchange looks kind of nod. >> right. >> walk me through those moments. what's that about? >> well, there's a thing that we do, and he let me know he's okay. he's calm, like i'm good, brother, don't worry about me. and then i'll return the favor. i'm good brother, don't worry about me. >> but you are worried about. >> i'm worried about him because it's a different place. you know you're going from this big man,
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this king size bed with butlers and stuff like that. to living in a room matches this thick. being told when to get up, when to sleep. >> he says his friend is not a monster. racketeering, sex trafficking, transportation for the purpose of prostitution. does that sound like your friend? >> no. it don't. it sounds like alleged charges. and that's why we're in court. he's not a sex trafficker. i know that he's not a racketeering boss, i know that. >> how do you know that? >> the rico was built for people like john gotti, al capone. >> mobsters, mobsters. >> he's not a mobster. he's a producer. he's a philanthropist. he's a father. he's my friend. he's my brother. so. >> and his lawyer suggested he's also a swinger. >> oh, yeah, for sure, so i don't i don't think swinger is against the law. what he do in his bedroom is his business. >> let's talk about the video of his former girlfriend, cassie
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ventura. you've seen the video? >> oh, yeah. >> your reaction when you first saw it? >> seeing it, it was a bad look, right? it could be upsetting, right? to see your friend in a situation like that. right. so your brothers and sisters like to see a woman in a situation like that. and by no way means possible that it's okay for a man to touch, pull, attack, grab, touch, do anything to a woman. >> if that were your girlfriend, your sister, your mom, your daughter, what would what would have been your reaction? >> i'd rather not say. >> in addition to the federal trial, combs is fighting more than 60 lawsuits depicting an alleged pattern of sexual violence and abuse. combs's lawyers have denied all allegations and said he never sexually assaulted anyone. bloom represents two people suing combs in civil court. >> the trial is underway. it feels like it's been a long
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wait. >> and one government witness in the federal case. >> it's very scary to be a government witness in a case like this. and i think scariest of all is that mr. combs will be sitting there staring at the witness. it's something that's very brave. >> one of her clients is singer songwriter dawn richard, who was a member of danity kane and collaborated with diddy over the years. she filed a civil suit against combs just days before he was indicted and arrested. last september, richard accused combs of sexual battery, forced labor, gender motivated violence, hostile work environment, and copyright infringement. she also claims she witnessed combs becoming violent towards ventura on numerous occasions. the alleged abuse including choking and strangling, punching her and throwing items at her, including a scalding hot pan. your client, don richard, you filed her suit one week before this case was brought against sean diddy
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combs. your reaction to that? >> we were surprised and frankly, very pleased to see that the government filed a case that was strikingly similar to our case. i mean, keep in mind, the government has a lot of power that i don't have. mainly they had the power of the fbi to go in and conduct raids of mr. combs homes. but knowing what the government knows, that they filed a case that's so similar to ours. we saw that as a very positive sign. >> combs lawyers have denied the allegations and accused richard of trying to transform a straightforward commercial dispute into a headline grabbing sex trafficking conspiracy. for many people, this trial is about unchecked power. this trial is about the underbelly of the music industry. what is it for you? >> for me, it's about my brother fighting for his life. that's what it means to me. >> guilty or not guilty. will his life be the same? >> it could never be the same.
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we have to. he has to rebuild. either way. >> he's a man in his mid-fifties. can he rebuild if he is acquitted? >> he don't know sean. do you. >> know, sir? >> okay, watch. >> and for more on this story, watch impact by nightline. diddy on trial, now streaming on hulu. when we come back, tom francis has gone viral for his open air performance of sunset boulevard. why, he says the chemistry he has with costar nicole scherzinger is like nothing he's scherzinger is like nothing he's ever experienced. hold you back. can sometimes but now, there's skyrizi, so you can be all in with clearer skin. ♪ things are getting clearer ♪ ♪ i feel free ♪ ♪ to bare my skin, yeah that's all me ♪ ♪ nothing is everything ♪
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starring in the broadway revival of the hugely popular andrew lloyd webber musical sunset boulevard. he's also going viral for taking his performance into the streets of new york city. he sat down with abc's gio benitez. >> tom francis is right here with us. welcome to. hello. it is so good to see you. first of all, congratulations on the tony nomination. i can't imagine what you were thinking when that nomination came down. >> yeah, it was it was such a beautiful moment. i can't really believe it's happening. >> but so much is happening. so obviously, sunset boulevard is this iconic show by andrew lloyd webber, and he's behind, of course, phantom of the opera. >> do you trust the music of the night?
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>> the list goes on and on. you play this down on his luck screenwriter, and one of the incredible scenes is when you are seen leaving the theater, walking out to times square, singing, going all around. and we have a clip we want to show the audience right here. take a look. >> sunset boulevard, ruthless boulevard destination for the stony hearted. >> is still very much in character walking through times square. >> boulevard. everyone's forgotten how they started here on sunset boulevard. >> and it's become a thing, right? because now it's viral. people are watching you do it on the street. they're recording videos of it. did you expect this to become so viral, though? >> no, i didn't i don't think i expected any of what's happened to happen, to be honest. so everything that's happened because of doing sunset boulevard has been a wild ride. yeah. >> a wild ride indeed. and you star opposite nicole
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scherzinger. can we talk about nicole? just so fantastic. i was able to see you guys actually on the west end before you came to broadway, and i've been able to see that chemistry. actually. it worked obviously over there. but how did it build up to what it is on broadway now? what's it been like to work with her? >> well, we just know each other so well now. yeah, i think we just know what each other's going to do. and it's a proper symbiotic relationship that happens when we're on stage, which i've never really experienced to that level before, knowing exactly where they are all the time, even when you're not looking at them. and it's just such a nice connection that we've, that we've formed. >> and she has these hit songs, don't you. >> don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me? don't you wish your girlfriend was a freak like me? >> when i grow up. >> when i grow up i wanna be famous i wanna be a star. >> she is the superstar of a singer. did that add pressure for you? >> i do remember when we were in london rehearsing the first time
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that she ever sang with one look. >> what a moment. >> that is with one look. i mean. >> i will never forget that. she's just this powerhouse and she just comes out and really just goes to some crazy places every single night. and it's such a pleasure to watch that i've got such a brilliant view. >> right. what's incredible about sunset boulevard is that it has such a history. right? you have the 1950 classic film sunset boulevard. >> you're norma desmond. used to be in silent pictures. used to be big. >> i am big. it's the pictures that got small. >> but then you also have the original broadway show with glenn close. >> i'm ready for my close up. >> which was also spectacular, but in this case, this was a performance that was really, i want to say, toned down when you're talking about costumes, when you're talking about sets,
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there really is not a whole lot of that. is it true that you haven't watched or listened to the source material? >> it's part of my creative process, just so that we could come up with our own version of joe gillis. really. >> you know, it's incredible what this show has done for you, because now you're starring in the hit netflix show, you. your character is so fun to watch. >> i told you that wasn't enough. hey. >> get your hand off her now! >> you can have her back when i'm done. >> greg berlanti, the co-creator of the show. i mean, he is one of the creative minds behind dawson's creek and love, simon. i heard that he actually saw you on the west end, and he was like, that's my guy. >> he did. he was very instrumental in it. >> can we talk about the met gala? yes. you had that amazing todd snyder look. what was that like to be invited to that? because that's such a legendary event. >> yeah, i, i remember getting off the phone with my team and it was just we were just all screaming down the phone, very
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excited. i mean, stevie wonder played. i was there like stevie wonder. he's so close. and he just sounded incredible. well, it's just sort of seeing everyone just interacting and walking around the room and it's just like, why am i here? but so. >> you're here because you're a star. >> yeah, i'm not sure. not yet. it was just a really, really enjoyable evening. >> all right. so you are nominated for a tony now? >> i can't believe it. >> i know, and you're on a hit tv show. i think everybody's probably surprised to hear that you're only 25 years old. yeah, right. tom francis. thank you. you are such a pleasure. thank you. thank you, my man. appreciate it. and sunset boulevard plays through july 13th on broadway. you can catch tom in the final season of you streaming on netflix right now. you won't regret it, tom. congratulations. >> thank you. >> our thanks to gio. when we come back, an historic hatching at the philadelphia zoo to a at the philadelphia zoo to a nearly 100 year old mother.
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