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>> catherine rampell and elise jordan. antonia has the night off, and we begin this hour with some breaking news. >> out of. >> both california and right here in new york. we'll start first. >> out on the west coast. >> in los. >> angeles, protesters. >> there are facing off against federal law enforcement officials in paramount, california. that is about 20 miles. >> south of the. >> downtown los angeles area. protesters were seen clashing with law enforcement during a chaotic scene near a home depot. >> earlier today. >> now, the agents. >> that you can. >> see there, among others, were wearing. >> riot gear. >> reportedly broke up. >> the protests. >> using flash. bang grenades. >> today's clashes. come after protesters broke out. yesterday over the detention. >> of more than 40 people in large scale raids across the city. >> and it is worth. noting the. >> white. >> house borders. our. >> tom homan is in. >> los angeles right now. >> in new york. >> protesters there clashed with officials outside of an. >> ice. detention center. they were heard. >> cursing at law enforcement agents while also voicing their

concerns about recent immigration raids. >> we're going. >> to have this covered. from all the angles, but we do want to start first in california. nbc news andy blankstein joins us from the l.a. bureau. we also have with us here in new york, maya eaglin, who is live on the ground for us in new york city. andy, first of all, walk us through what has transpired today on the heels of yesterday and where things stand at this hour. well. >> i mean, it's been a really interesting 24 hours. i mean, it's not like there haven't been operations that ice has been involved. >> in and. >> search warrant. services in the last number of months, but in the. last 24 hours or so, we have three incidents in which either there was a warrant service or an ice related immigration. in operation, in which there was a considerable pushback from people on the ground. you had, in some cases, large crowds gathering, people shouting and even throwing

objects. and today, in paramount, as you noted, was the latest in the series. >> in the last. >> 24 hours, where. you had a large crowd and. the sheriff's department of that shot showing riot gear being called in. to kind. >> of quell the. >> crowd, which got really testy. >> for a time. >> and the question is, as these operations go on and there's the administration has kind of indicated there's every intention of continuing this. and law enforcement sources familiar, if there is a kind of growing tension not only between the communities, but obviously kind of a set piece between administration officials, trump administration officials and local political officials, obviously, law enforcement has taken pains. local law enforcement. >> the. >> lapd, the sheriff's to try to distance themselves, saying, we don't participate in this. and there was even a policy, you know, as far as the lapd going back decades, special order 40, which which states.

>> it the. >> fact is as though there's an inherent tension when these when things escalate about the trump administration raising issues about where the police and so people are being pulled into this and the tension is rising, the political tensions are obviously rising. so that's what we have today is the latest. and i think the question is, what are we going to get going forward this summer? >> andy? elise here. what kind of. crowds are we seeing at. >> the la protest? >> i think we're seeing people that either have kind of relationships like this warrant service, for example, in in downtown los angeles, in the fashion district, there were people that related to people that were working there that were trying to figure out what was going on in what were called these administrative detentions, which essentially are immigration related detentions. and so you had people who were kind of coming down to the

scene. you had people in the community. you had people who were working around there. and as time goes on, there are other people who kind of join the fray. we saw that hours later in chinatown, after some of the action that took place in downtown los angeles. so i think we get we're into this cycle now where there's kind of, again, these ongoing operations that are now gathering steam in terms of people pushing back right away. and i think that's going to be not only a source of ongoing tension, but obviously, trump administration officials have kind of voiced on on x and in statements that they are not going to tolerate this. >> let's go to maya now in new york city. >> maya. >> what are you seeing and what's going on in downtown new york today? yeah. hey, guys. lorraine really picking up in just the last few minutes now, but we just saw a bunch of police and protesters here kind of clear out the space. for the last few hours, they've been

clashing back and forth. the protesters here are against ice. they're saying that they received a tip, according to the protesters, that the folks seeking immigration, asylum and their immigration hearings were told to come to this federal building in downtown manhattan and then detained. now, we haven't been able to verify those claims, but there are a few groups out here that try to organize a group of protesters to try and stop traffic from moving in and out of this building. one of those organizations was nyc ice watch, so they were successful in being able to hold off a white van. again, you don't know who was inside that van, but according to the protesters, they believe that it was people who were seeking asylum. some of the clashes today have also been just from the police officers trying to move protesters out of the middle of the street. we saw a few people get detained, at least six. also some people putting water in their eyes. i don't know if something was

sprayed or if there was a gas release, but there was a few medical needs from the protesters here. when we spoke to them, they said their demand is to stop the immediate deportations of folks seeking asylum here in new york. guys. andy blankstein in. >> maya, thank you. so much. joining us now is. msnbc legal analyst. paul butler. he's also a former federal prosecutor. >> paul. >> thanks so much for joining us. so what do. >> you make. >> of the protests we've seen so far today? >> so. >> catherine, i'm really interested in how the trump administration will respond. five years ago this month. >> we. >> saw demonstrations around the murder. >> of george. >> floyd, sponsored by. >> the movement. >> for black lives. president trump then wanted to call in the national guard. >> he could. >> do that under the auspices of the insurrection act, which gives the president broad authority to call in both the military and the national guard if he believes that there's an impeachment of federal law enforcement. former presidents

have been very reluctant to do that. it hasn't been invoked since the uprising. regarding rodney king and la in 1992. but we know this is a president who doesn't have a problem with doing something different. >> i also wonder, is it too cynical of me to worry that they might be deliberately escalating these encounters with protesters so that they have a pretext to do something like what you just described? >> well, we know that the president frequently criticizes. cities that are run by democratic mayors, and he focuses on law and order. he thinks that those. >> police officers. >> in those. cities aren't, you could say, enthusiastic or vigorous enough in their enforcement of law. so this may be an excuse for him. he can't take over local police departments. and importantly, even if he invokes the insurrection act, that doesn't give the military or the national guard any new authority or power that local police don't have. but again, he would run.

he would be in control of those troops in a way that he's not in control of local police officers. >> i want to get your thoughts on what's playing out specifically in la, because of the tension that is happening right now between the mayor. >> of los angeles. >> karen bass, as well as the federal authorities, and she, in a post on twitter, basically called it, you know, saying that what is happening. >> is sowing. >> terror in the community and at the same time is basically leading to disrupting basic principles of safety in the community. and so it sounds like she's kind of putting the blame on these ice raids or these immigration raids that are sowing this chaos in the city. what is the obligation of the mayor as the head of the police department in the city of los angeles, in terms of complying with federal law or not complying with these actual arrests? well, of course, these raids. >> yeah. so, of course, the mayor wants everybody to be safe. so she wants protesters and demonstrators to respect the law and to exercise their first

amendment rights in accordance with the law. but everybody being safe also includes people who might not have proper documents, who at times might need to call the police or to go to court. and if they're in fear of being summarily deported just because they call 911 or because they show up for a court proceeding, that makes them less safe. so i think that's one of her concerns. law and order doesn't just apply to demonstrators. it also applies to public safety concerns, including people who don't have documents to be in the country. >> so miguel. >> abrego garcia has been a flashpoint of discussion around. >> immigration in. >> america since. >> the. >> trump administration. >> took him to court. the detention facility. >> in el. >> salvador and defied a court order. >> to return him. >> and so. >> now he's back on american soil. but donald. >> trump. >> is saying that they have a very cut and dry. >> case against him. >> the government does. >> what do you how do you. see that.

>> playing out now that abrego. garcia is back on american soil? >> this is such an interesting ongoing travail. so even though the department of justice admitted that mr. abrego garcia was illegally and mistakenly sent to el salvador. attorney general pam bondi said that he would never set foot in the united states again, and so the trump administration caved. but they did it in a way that allows them to save face by bringing him back on these federal charges of transporting illegal people without documents to the united states. so i think you could call it a victory for the rule of law, in the sense that now, mr. abrego, garcia will have his right to due process, both with regard to the very serious criminal charges he's facing. but regardless of how that case comes out, whether he's convicted or acquitted, there will still be a removal

proceeding, at least according to the trump administration. but then, importantly, he would also have the right to due process of law. >> so if he actually committed these crimes that he's being. accused of now, and as you described them, as relatively serious, why wasn't he prosecuted before? >> because it wasn't a priority. there was no investigation. he was originally apprehended, not even apprehended. he was stopped for speeding in tennessee in november 20th, 2022. the police did a background check on him right at the site, and they found that he was on a watch list, so they called the feds. the feds said, let them go. he didn't even get a ticket. so fast forward three years. now he's in the public eye and suddenly there's an investigation. and apparently there's a jailhouse snitch who came forward with evidence about mr. abrego. garcia. but the indictment, it's the government's story, but it's compelling. they say, for

example, that mr. garcia, mr. garcia told the police that he was coming from saint louis. and they say, well, we looked at license plate readers. we looked at his cell phone data. and that's just not true. we think he really was coming from texas in order to transport these undocumented migrants. and so, you know, when the government goes after you with all of its power and might, it often can find things wasn't a priority in 2022, now it's a priority. >> can i pick up on this idea of a limited victory for the judiciary that trump, the trump administration brought kilmer, abrego, garcia back to the united states because there was a part of those who were advocating that the supreme court decision be enforced, which was that they needed to facilitate his return. do you believe that was. and i don't even know if we can know this, but do you believe that was a calculation in the administration's desire to bring him back, or was it to continue

this spectacle of showing that they can bring somebody, deport somebody, bring them back, and then prosecute him, put him through this kind of due process, and then deport him once again for another victory. >> i don't think the trump administration wanted this fight with every court from the supreme court on down. the supreme court ordered the trump administration to facilitate mr. abrego garcia's return. the administration was acting like, well, if he can make his way to the airport in el salvador, we'll spring for a flight. but obviously it meant more than that. everybody knew that. so it was open defiance. at one point, president trump said, yeah, if i picked up the phone and called president of el salvador, mr. garcia would be on the next flight back. but he wasn't willing to do that, despite the order of the court. and so this was headed to a collision in the context of a federal district judge who was steaming mad at

the supreme court, at the administration's open defiance. so it looked like she was almost certain to hold the trump administration in contempt of court. there would have been any number of consequences from that. now, the administration's point of view is that that issue is moot. >> paul butler. >> thank you. >> so. much for sharing your. >> expertise with us tonight. really appreciate it. we will continue to monitor the breaking news and bring you updates throughout the show this evening. but first up. >> next. >> has the trump musk feud hit the point. >> of. >> no return? we will dive into their breakup and the new their breakup and the new warning from trump. here's to getting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need, and the flavor you love. so, here's to now... now available: boost max!

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and former first buddy elon musk went to war. the feud kicked off thursday when musk unleashed a series of now deleted posts on x attacking trump over his. so-called big beautiful bill. musk even went as far as to say trump would have lost the election without his help, and that trump's tariffs will cause a recession. musk even accused trump in a now deleted post of being named in the jeffrey. >> epstein files. musk did. >> not provide evidence for this claim, and trump has denied any involvement in epstein's criminal behavior. the white house responded to musk's allegation, calling it an unfortunate. >> episode, unquote. >> and just today, trump told nbc news's kristen welker that he has no desire to repair his relationship with musk, warning there will be very serious consequences if he funds democratic candidates. >> it's a. >> sad end. to what once looked like a. bromance for the ages. >> but i'm delighted to. >> welcome here mckenna kelley,

senior writer for wired.com, who has all of the scoops on all. >> of this. >> so mckenna, thanks so much for joining us. you and your colleagues at wired have been covering the chaos surrounding musk's tenure at the white house for a while. did you expect the fallout. >> to be. >> this bad to happen this quickly or this late? >> yeah. >> i think we all. >> expected there to be some kind of eruption. >> some kind of. >> breakup in some period. >> of time. i was kind of thinking that maybe. >> it. >> would hold. >> out. >> through the midterms just because elon musk. >> of course. >> spent like $250. >> million backing. >> trump's bid for. >> the white. >> house and. >> helping him. >> secure the election. >> something that he did discuss in the post, discussing why he wanted to, why he was. so disenfranchized with the trump. administration this week. >> and so, yeah. >> no. >> i mean, it. >> wasn't a surprise that. >> it happened. i think. >> it happened a lot sooner than expected. and over something like this big, beautiful bill and the person who trump had

originally. >> nominated to be. >> the nasa director, jason isaacson, who that. >> was. >> recently pulled out as well. so there was a there's a bit of a few things that happened this week that kind of got to this point, to this breakup. but i do think it happened pretty, pretty early, as you know, compared to what i was expecting. >> okay. >> mckenna, i kind of want to. throw out my. >> own personal theory on this. >> but based on. >> politics and how people go into. politics and, you know. >> it's their first. campaign and they're super passionate. >> and they might have the one cause. >> that they really. >> really care about. and do you think for elon. >> musk, it. >> actually was he actually really cared about the budget. >> and the deficit. >> and then he realized he wasn't in on the joke after his whole performative doge experience, and he realized it was going to be harder to work within the confines of government. but do you think. it's on some level, this is not even as much of a. business story as it is just a political

love story gone bad. >> yeah, i feel as if it. >> is. >> more of. >> a. >> political love story gone bad. i mean, elon musk was getting a lot out of out of his doge operation. he was able to make a whole bunch of cuts that he said he wanted to do, whether it was at, you know, the social security administration, which resulted in a lot of glitches and folks being unable to access their benefits online, and then also making cuts all across the board. now we're actually starting to see some of this, some of the consequences of these actions in these cuts. but even just this week, me and my colleagues have been reporting everything that's been happening. and now they're trying to recruit more tech talent this week because of all the cuts that they've already made. and so i do think that this relationship has kind of run its course. i think the trump administration is recognizing that elon maybe wasn't the smartest person to put in charge of all of this. of course, he hasn't spent a lot of time in government, and even the people who he appointed, right,

as a part of the department of government efficiency, these 19 year olds, these early 20 year olds, they don't have a lot of experience in government either. and even some of the people like like there was a one of these doge folks who's now been going around and speaking with the press, and he said that he there really wasn't as many inefficiencies as he expected there to be. and so i think that, yes, the relationship ran its course. you have a lot of folks now who were inexperienced, who were still in government, right? these folks, as early as this week, a lot of the original doge kids who elon musk brought in have been turned into full time employees. that was just may 31st, when elon musk was asked to leave. right. and so these folks are sticking around. this isn't necessarily the end of doge, but it definitely is the end of musk and trump. it feels like. >> so let's talk about where this goes from here, because the implications for both are pretty severe. on one hand, musk has billions of dollars of contracts with the federal government. and

the logical conclusion, and as people on this show have said, like michael cohen is, donald trump will probably come after his money in some way, shape or form, whether it means suspending contracts or perhaps even doing something more severe than that. at the same time, you have to wonder about the absence of somebody like donald elon musk from the world of maga politics, because there are a lot of republicans who are going to be running in the midterms, who still want to be able to tap into his largesse and have his money easily at their disposal. where do you see this playing out? who's going to have more to lose here in the immediate to short term, immediate to medium, short term? >> yeah. so i think, you know, lawmakers, congressional folks are going to be up for the midterms next year, are a little upset with this breakup. but i think trump and musk both have a lot to lose in the fallout of all of this. trump, of course, has already threatened to pull away musk's government contracts. but again, like musk and spacex makes up such a huge

part of nasa. so musk was to pull out and decide that he didn't want to participate in all of this. well, then nasa has a lot of rebuilding to do. even just today, i was seeing reporting that there were officials at nasa who had been reaching out to blue origin, jeff bezos space company, and other companies like that, asking them to start building products that could be more competitive against spacex after seeing all of this fall out. so we're seeing a lot of consequences happening very, very quickly in spaces like like nasa. but also, i mean, elon musk runs one of the most powerful social media companies in the world, and he could just change the algorithm to suppress conservative voices, which the trump administration lauded. trump lauded elon musk for changing right when he acquired twitter in 2022. and so there's a lot that could change. they both have a, you know, just an immense amount of power over online speech, over contracts,

over a bunch of things. and so i don't think i think all of them are kind of holding back all of the waiting to, i guess maybe they're waiting to, you know, shoot the first bullet or, you know, make the first strike after all of this. but there is a lot there's a lot that each of them could lose. >> so, mckenna, you alluded to the fact that doge is here to stay. first of all, i'm wondering why you don't think all of the children or young adults that have been hired under musk won't be purged, because i would have expected that they would have a target on their backs now and then. second of all, i'm curious about whether you think the destructive processes that they've already set in motion will continue. i mean, there are a lot of doge orders or doge orchestrated decisions, including mass layoffs at other agencies, not just nasa, but throughout the federal government that have not yet been executed or are still being litigated. does all of that stuff continue? if musk and or his band of merry men is gone?

>> yeah. i mean, this week, this is a lot of reporting that me and my team at wired has been doing this week. specifically, we were talking to folks who were previously in government and tech jobs, whether they were developers or product people or other folks like that, and they were starting to receive recruitment emails asking them to be a part of a variety of different projects that doge has started, like going through veterans affairs contracts, rebuilding the fafsa program, making cuts and things like that. so they're still trying to recruit. there's a huge recruiting recruiting spree that's currently ongoing. and if i know that a lot of the doge folks, there's been a lot of reporting that these kids who were brought in, these engineers are definitely concerned with this eruption. they're afraid for their jobs. they're afraid that maybe they'll, you know, be purged or suffer even worse consequences, perhaps perhaps legal consequences or something

like that for all of the data that they have, you know, sort in many ways gained access to. we saw with the scotus decision this week in the social security administration allowing doge to obtain all of this sensitive social security data. and so right now, it seems as if things are continuing on this path. you know, in a congressional hearing this week, russell vought, who, you know, is supposed to be taking the lead as doge on doge, he said that doge is going to become more institutionalized, and these cuts are going to be something that they're going to continue to see whether or not elon musk continues, you know, his stay in the administration. >> yes. it will be really. >> interesting to see if elon musk loyalists are allowed to stay in administration. so thank you so much, mckenna kelly. thank you. coming up, more on the breaking news. protests erupt in los angeles over immigration raids. you're watching the weekend primetime.

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>> welcome back everyone. we are following the breaking news out of california and new york. protesters are facing off against federal law enforcement officials in paramount california, and they are now getting a warning from authorities. moments ago, los angeles county sheriff's department officials issued dispersal orders for remaining protesters in the area. protesters were also warned to leave and were told that if they did not do so, projectiles will be used against them. white house borders are. tom homan, who is in los angeles right now, responded to la mayor karen bass and her criticism of ice raids by saying this. >> she says they're. >> going to they're going to mobilize or guess what? we're already ahead of the game. we were already mobilizing. we're going to bring national guard in tonight. we're going to continue doing. >> our job. >> we're going to push back on these people, and we're going to force a law. >> all right. let's bring in andy blankstein, who joins us

from california and has been following all these developments. so quite the escalation there. the rhetoric at least escalatory from tom homan. it might be too soon to have any reaction from officials in los angeles. but give me a sense, based on what you've been hearing and reporting, how this is likely to land with the officials in los angeles. >> well, clearly there's fault lines that have. opened up over this issue. i mean, you had yesterday members of the city council, the mayor as referenced, even governor gavin newsom making statements in to varying degree in support of communities. and the one thing that's going to be interesting now, you have a series of kind of counter statements, mostly posted to x by a number of administration officials, saying not only that they're not going to tolerate lawlessness, but this idea of what they're calling impeding or interfering with their operations. and so i

get the sense that this is going to go on for a while and that this is going to this is going to be more heated. and that's not even the that's just the rhetoric, what's happening on the streets now. we have three incidents in the last 24 hours where there were large crowds that gathered because of either an operation or some kind of a warrant service. and that resulted in, in, in violence or vandalism. and so that's what homan's responding to. but also the public officials are saying, we this is the kind of aggressive tactics that we're going to push back on. >> andy, really quickly. have we heard from the governor of california and also showing you some of the images from the protests that happened here in new york as well? so just so our viewers know the distinction, have we heard from the governor of california? has he weighed in at all? just kind of one. >> one post. but, you know, you referenced at the top, you know,

the borders are tom homan saying essentially that the national guard was being brought in. but usually that's obviously a state imperative. so i haven't in terms of the reporting channels that i have heard anything about that yet. but clearly they feel and they've been criticizing local law enforcement and the trump administration in terms of what they feel is not enough support for these operations. and the irony is, is that there are specific policies going way back for both the lapd and the sheriff's department about not participating in immigration related operations. >> all right. andy blankstein live for us in los angeles. we're going to keep an eye on those developments. and if you get any reactions or responses to those comments by tom homan, the borders are certainly let us know. we'll come back to you throughout the course of this evening. coming up, russia launches what is being described as the most powerful attack on ukraine since the beginning of the war. congressman adam smith, who sits on the house armed services committee, is going to

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fighting in a park and you try and pull them apart. they don't want to be pulled. sometimes you're better off letting them fight for a while and then pulling them apart. and i gave that analogy to putin yesterday. i said, president, maybe you're going to have to keep fighting and suffering a lot because both sides before you pull them apart. >> joining us now is democratic congressman adam smith. he's the ranking member of the house armed services committee. congressman. what did you make of the president's comparison that the war's like two children fighting and need to work out their differences? >> well, the. >> president's ignorance. >> of this situation. is staggering. >> it continues to astound with. >> the. >> way he. >> says things, and also. incredibly costly. >> because it's really very. >> clear what's going on here. >> putin wants control. of ukraine. >> and he's not. >> going. >> to stop until. >> one of two things happens. either a he gets control of

ukraine. >> or b. >> it is made clear to. >> him that he can't achieve that. >> objective. >> which is why. >> it is. >> so important. >> for. the president to state. >> that clearly. >> this is not. some spat between. >> two. >> equal rivals who have just a difference. >> of opinion. >> this is. >> a concerted effort. >> by putin. >> to try. >> to grab territory. >> you know, he. >> basically wants to reestablish. >> the soviet union and. >> to stop him. we need. >> to support ukraine. >> we need to be clear. >> in that support the message. >> that president trump. >> and jd vance and others in the administration have. >> sent. which basically. >> is we'll go. >> to abandon. ukraine at. >> some point. >> that is empowering putin. >> look, ukraine. >> has fought incredibly bravely. >> we put together a coalition to help them. we can stop. >> putin. >> but not if the president keeps. >> pulling the rug out from under ukraine. >> so to talk about that tactic of pulling the rug from out underneath volodymyr zelensky, every couple of days when things go sour for the way the president views vladimir putin, he'll either tweet about it or

he'll say, i'm shocked at the way vladimir putin is behaving. and for most of us in the media and in the real world who have seen vladimir putin for the last 20 years, it's not a surprise that vladimir putin is showing us who he really is. yet somehow, the president of the united states always acts surprised that vladimir putin is turning out to be a bad guy. >> yeah, no, you're exactly right. >> there's nothing. >> really terribly complicated. >> i explained. >> it in the answer. >> to the first question. that's what's going on. >> i mean, we have to calculate what our interests. >> are in that fight. >> i think. >> our interests are clear. if russia and putin. >> are able to, by military. >> force, take territory. >> and expand their. >> power. >> that's a bad thing for the world. >> and we should try and stop it. >> but president trump. >> has no real interest in the background. >> here. >> and it. is costing us dearly. we have. a very. >> good coalition. >> supporting ukraine. >> ukraine is. >> fighting incredibly well. >> we can get to.

>> peace if we show resolve and support in ukraine. the president. i mean, there's a whole. >> bunch of different factors. >> in why he's messing. >> this up. let us not underestimate. >> what i. set up front. >> the president. >> is. >> remarkably ignorant of. >> things that. >> don't immediately. >> you know, suit his ego. so he may not know. >> what's going on there. >> and then you've got the people who. >> are. >> sympathetic to putin within the. >> republican party, and then you've got. >> the vague notion. >> that, well, we should try to get out of conflicts all around. >> the world, which i don't. >> disagree with. >> but we're. not actually in this conflict. we're trying to prevent a. >> situation where more. >> countries get drawn in, drawn into it. >> by supporting ukraine. >> and defending themselves. >> so, yeah. >> the president's. >> national security approach is incredibly. >> dangerous for the world and. >> for our country. >> congressman, you alluded to a lot of republicans in congress being sympathetic to putin. there have also been a number of aides within the white house who have been hostile, outwardly hostile to zelensky. could you talk a little bit more about how much influence that support may

be having or not having on president trump? and if you have any theories about why there is this strange set of bedfellows right now. >> yeah. >> first of all, let me make. >> clear there. >> is a. >> substantial number of. >> republicans in the house and the senate. >> who support ukraine. >> and they are strong. >> on that. >> mike rogers, the chairman. >> of the armed services. >> committee, my counterpart. very strong. supporter of ukraine. >> a number of others. as well. but then. >> you've got. >> this. >> weird strain within. >> the. >> republican party. that is sympathetic. >> to putin as sort of. >> a. white christian nationalist as. >> he's portrayed himself. you know, putin, you know, he he does a lot of bizarre. propaganda about. >> being anti-woke. and then you have people like marjorie taylor greene who are sympathetic to that. how large is that in the republican party? >> i don't know, but it's obviously present. liz cheney put it best as the. >> pro putin wing of.

>> the. >> republican party. and i will say this, however large. >> it is. >> they have a. disproportionate level of influence within trump's maga movement, and that. >> is hurting our ability to get to the right policy. >> even while you have national. >> security, republican. national security. >> leaders in the house and the senate. >> who agree. >> with everything that we're saying here, they're just not the ones driving the ship, but the white house right now. and that's a big problem. >> congressman, next weekend, on saturday, donald trump is going to host a real boondoggle of a parade that cost about $40 million, celebrating the 250th anniversary of the us army, which i think we can all agree that's reason to celebrate. but is there any talk of also doing this for the marine corps or for the navy, who also have their 250th anniversary coming up? or is the cost, you know, and is the cost just not an issue or consideration for this

administration? >> well, it's. >> the marine. >> corps fault. >> for not. >> sharing a birthday. >> with donald trump. >> you know, i. >> think that's. >> that's the reason the army. >> is getting more. >> of the celebration here. and i, i don't think it's any particular. insight on my part to point that out. look, trump can dress this up any way he wants. and i know republican colleagues of mine. >> in the house. >> are defending it. well, the military does. >> parades all the time. >> and it's not a big deal. >> they don't do parades. >> that cost them. by the way, the figure i heard was $45 million. they don't do parades that cost $45 million, are going. >> to tear up the streets in downtown. d.c. and just happen to coincide with president. >> trump's birthday. >> while president trump has actively said. >> he admires leaders like. >> kim jong. >> un and putin. >> because they get these big. >> huge parades. celebrating them, you know. >> this is a. >> bad look for. >> our government. it is about trump. it is about moving towards a more autocratic approach to governing. tip of. >> the iceberg. >> by the way, the. parade you guys have documented. >> you know, the disappearing of people off the streets, you

know. >> the way he has weaponized the. >> justice department, going after law firms, gone. >> after the media. all in an autocratic. >> way that is completely. >> against the. >> values of. >> this country. i'm not going to pretend. >> that a parade is somehow the worst. >> thing going on. >> here, but. it fits. the theme. we are. >> supposed to praise the dear leader as opposed to upholding the. >> law. >> the constitution. >> and recognizing. >> that that's what this nation is about, not about a cult of personality. make no mistake about it, he's doing this parade so that people can kiss up to him. >> so to that point really quickly, congressman, and, you know, i, i'm reluctant to ever ask a politician to comment on what the media should do. but what do you think journalists and media organizations should do next saturday? should they cover this parade that this president, as you described, is cloaking himself in to make it about him and to kind of have a dear leader moment and give him that imagery that he wants, or what do you think the media should do? >> i don't think they should do that. i think. >> they should make the points that i've made and point out

exactly what this is about. but you're right, i can't. i can't dictate to the media how. >> to cover things. but look. >> trump's going after the media too. >> i mean, this is all part. >> of the effort. >> you know, that the point, whether you're talking about. >> harvard, whether you're talking about. >> the media, whether you're talking about the law firms just. >> acquiescing to trump's demands. just walks us down the road of the autocracy that he wants to create. >> i think if. >> you believe in representative democracy and freedom, you should fight back against that, whoever you are. >> congressman adam smith, we really appreciate your deference to our journalistic judgment. thank you so much for joining us. up next, we will be speaking with the pediatrician, challenging lindsey graham for south carolina's senate seat. and later, congressman ro khanna joins us on why he thinks democrats maybe should consider democrats maybe should consider courting elon mu seeking the unsatisfied, emotional, defiant.

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we see from career politicians like lindsey graham. >> doctor, you have a huge campaign fundraising void that you're going to have to fill to be competitive. last time jamie harrison raised around 100 million. it was the most expensive election, i believe, in south carolina history. so you're going to have an astronomical amount of fundraising to do. but at the same time, lindsey graham is vulnerable. he is less popular. he's he's less popular than other republicans. what is with his sliding popularity unpopularity in south carolina, where he is? his approval rating is at around 34%. and how do you plan to capitalize on that? >> yes, lindsey graham is as vulnerable as he's ever been because he's as unpopular as he's ever been, because he's as corrupt as he's ever been. he's been in the senate for 22 years, and in that time, he has failed to deliver in any meaningful way

for the folks in south carolina. he has enabled every chaotic thing that. is coming out of this current trump administration and is directly harming voters in south carolina, whether it's our auto industry, south carolina farmers, south carolina small business owners, people are feeling it. he's willing to take food off of kids plates, gut our nation's medicaid program, and watch prices spiral out of control. also, he can deliver tax cuts to billionaires. and that's not serving the people of south carolina. i know people are ready for a change. that's why our announcement was so successful. and if people want to learn more about my campaign, they need to go to doctor annie andrews, dot com. >> doctor andrews, i want to pick up on something that's in your bio on x. you say no court, no corporate pacs. and we've seen some candidates who have had success with fundraising on a grassroots level. it's very hard in a state like south carolina, as elise was just mentioning. but i want to talk about how you run your campaign. what are you going to do on the ground that is going to be a

grassroots led campaign to rely on small donations when, as we just saw, you had a billionaire who basically took $270 million out of his own pocket to buy an american president and vows to probably do more so of that in in the election cycle that you're going to be competing in. >> that's right. i will take no corporate pac money, and i'll do what i do every day as a pediatrician. i'm going to meet voters where they are. as a doctor, i sit down with worried parents and sick children. every day. i listen to their. concerns and i come up to solutions, come up with solutions to their problems. and that's exactly what i'm going to do out on the campaign trail. being a doctor is not about red or blue, and this campaign is not about red or blue. it's about meeting people where they are. it's about inspiring hope for the folks of south carolina who are tired of being left behind. i believe in south carolina. i believe in the kids and families that i've served there for nearly two decades, and i'm not afraid to stand up to career politicians like lindsey graham who are willing to sell them out. so i'm going to start with

lindsey, and i won't stop when i get to the us senate. >> all right. doctor amy andrews, thank you so much. we look forward to having many more conversations with you in the months ahead. thank you. coming up, we're going to track the latest out of los angeles, where protests have erupted after ice raids led to dozens of detentions. congresswoman delia ramirez will be our guest to weigh in on that and a whole lot weigh in on that and a whole lot more. stay my moderate to severe crohn's symptoms kept me out of the picture. now i have skyrizi. ♪ i've got places to go and i'm feeling free. ♪ ♪ control of my crohn's means everything to me. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me.♪ and now i'm back in the picture. feel significant symptom relief at 4 weeks with skyrizi, including less abdominal pain and fewer bowel movements. skyrizi helped visibly improve damage of the intestinal lining. and with skyrizi, many were in remission at 12 weeks, at 1 year, and even at 3 years. don't use if allergic. serious allergic reactions, increased infections,

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