>> good afternoon, i'm stephanie

ruhle. you're watching breaking news coverage here on msnbc and the mass demonstrations happening from east to west in big cities and small towns across this country. protesters are hitting the streets to express their anger about president trump's policies in his second term. these protests come as the army's 250th birthday celebration is underway in the nation's capital, ending with a military parade this evening. more on that in a moment. another big story we're following today, the search for a gunman who opened fire on two lawmakers and their spouses in minnesota. in minnesota in the early hours this morning, one of the lawmakers and her husband were killed. investigators say this was a targeted attack. three people familiar with the investigation are now telling nbc news. vance boulter of green isle, minnesota, is the suspect in the case. no word yet on his motive. we'll have more on the search for the suspect. he is still at large in just a moment, but i want to go now to nbc's

antonia hilton in new york city, where hundreds of thousands of protesters are gathering for today's no protest throughout the city. antonia, when we spoke, you know, just a few hours ago, tens of thousands of people you were speaking to mark ruffalo right outside new york's public library. and the plan was to move south to madison square park. give us an update. >> well, seth, that was the plan. we've barely been able to move because the crowd has grown so packed. the last organizer that i spoke with estimates that there are about 200,000 people converging at the point where i am right now and trying to move to madison square park. so, as you can imagine, you might be able to see behind me here, people are moving very slowly down fifth avenue. even so, it's a defiant but very joyous protest. there are people here who have been part of protests in new york city in the past. a lot of people who've been involved in immigration advocacy

here in new york, some familiar politicians. i spoke with, zoran mamdani, one of the leading candidates for mayor here in new york city a few hours ago. but then there are also a whole lot of people who told me this is their very first time coming to a protest ever, and that the images that they've been seeing coming out of la, the deployment of the national guard, the marines arriving in california, in los angeles, that that has changed something for them, woken them up and that they now want to send this message today, the very same day as this military parade. they see all of these things as interconnected, right? the aggressive change in immigration enforcement tactics around the country, the sort of flexing of the military and what many people tell me they see as trump sort of subverting and abusing the military almost as his own personal royal guard. and then this, this parade and sort of celebration. that, of course, is ostensibly the 250th celebration anniversary celebration. but many people

here, people here believe is really about the president's 79th birthday. take a listen to a conversation that i had with one immigration community organizer here in new york city. >> so what we're seeing is this administration continue to run afoul of the law. what we want to do is get. >> steer the ship in the right direction in this moment and push back as hard as we can. >> the administration is waging. >> a war on immigrants. >> in this country, which is. incredibly idiotic. >> and laughable. >> in the sense. that donald trump is. >> destroying our country. >> from the inside, because immigrants without. >> immigrants, there is no america. >> stephanie, the original plan was for this protest to wrap up around 3 or 4:00. i can tell you at this pace, and just given the numbers that we are seeing here, that seems very unlikely to me. i think it is going to take people hours to just make it down to madison square park, where we expect for there to be additional speeches, potential performances. there are

musicians here, there are former members of the military, transgender former members of the military speaking out about their service. there are veterans here. i spoke to one who served for 20 years in the army and then eight years working for the marine corps, who are trying to send the message right now that more veterans, more high ranking members of the military should be speaking out about what we're seeing, and all of that is going to converge downtown, but it is going to take a long time. i'm sure you can hear some of the cheering, the celebration that's happening behind me here. it's going to take them a while to get there. so expect for what you're seeing here to continue on well into tonight. steph. >> antonia, i know you've laid it out, but i want you to explain it again and underscore it for us, because you said these protestors are defiant but joyful. you and i both know that right now there are media outlets that are telling people those are rioters. some may be saying there are violent

rioters. some may be saying they're having conflict, physical conflict with law enforcement. that is, we know that not to be the case. so just lay out for us one more time. so our audience, who's not there, but you are. tell us exactly what the scenario is, because i think it's crucially important in this age of misinformation. >> you're absolutely right. and i can tell you, i have been here since the very beginning. this morning before there were a few organizers around, but before any of the protesters showed up to take part in all of this, i have not seen a single instance of violence. and if you can't just see it in the imagery behind me here on the street, on fifth avenue here, there are people that i've spoken to as old as 86 years old, who say that they are honored to be part of this protest. they don't care that they're getting a little soggy and cold, that it matters to them to be out here. and then there are people who have brought their young children with them, because they want their kids to not believe that what we're seeing is normal. so

this is intergenerational. it's incredibly diverse. and right now, and for the last several hours, it has been peaceful. stephanie. >> and where's law enforcement? >> law enforcement is out there. it might be hard for you to see over some of the umbrellas and the many creative signs, but the nypd is lined on all sides of the street, down many of the side streets, 41st and 42nd street. they are everywhere. and in fact, they were there before people arrived. they clearly knew how big this was going to be, what the potential of this protest looked like. and they were ready to step. >> well, if you're planning on going to the library today, it's going to be tough to get in. antonia. thank you. i want to bring in. nbc news correspondent david noriega. he is in downtown los angeles. david, give us an update, because today's rally carries the message of immigration raid protesters for the last week. right. this started last week, and it was about the ice raids. and here we are today. it's no kings in la.

it's a culmination of all of it. >> yeah. it's everything. and i just want to show you immediately behind me stephanie, these are the images that antonia referred to that have motivated people to come out across the country. these are national guard troops posted up outside of a federal building who are not under the control of governor gavin newsom, but under the control of donald trump, precisely because he is characterizing this burgeoning protest movement as dangerous as a threat as riots. we've been standing here for a little while, and i found this group of young women standing directly across from the national guardsmen holding signs. i want to talk to them a little bit, because i think it's going to give us a sense of the sort of character of this, of this burgeoning movement. so i want to start with you, because i noticed your sign says trump has a mug shot. my dad doesn't. can you explain to me the meaning behind this sign? >> my dad. >> has been here for over 30 years. he's never gone to jail. he's a hard working man. wakes up at 5 a.m. every morning, goes to work just so that our president can have 47 felonies. our president has 47 felonies. my dad has never gone to jail.

he does everything. he pays his taxes. he does everything to be good in this. this was supposed to be the american dream. >> this is what you guys give us in return. >> how do you feel about the ice raids that have been happening over the last week or so in l.a? >> it's frustrating. >> it's frustrating. >> this is our community. we wouldn't be anything without our immigrants. we wouldn't be nothing. >> are you guys all children or grandchildren of immigrants? >> we are. we are. >> everyone here? are you guys all born and raised in the la area? >> all born? >> yeah, we're all from south central. all from south? yeah. south central. yeah. south central. >> represent. >> okay. south central. obviously very heavily latino mexican part of the city where by the way, we've seen a pretty substantial presence of ice in south central and southeast la over the last few days. okay. i'm going to let you guys go. but unless someone is there anything else that someone wants to say before? yeah. >> we just want the community to stay strong. we're with you guys and just keep fighting. and, you know, strength unites. >> yeah. okay. thank you guys. have a great day. stephanie, i just want to explain something that's important here. you know, i've been out every single day

for the last week. and one of the things i've been trying to figure out is who are the protesters. right. who are the people that are coming out and that what you just saw is by far the most overrepresented and significant demographic. i mean, specifically the children and grandchildren of immigrants, many of them undocumented, but not necessarily not all of them undocumented, because, i will say, people who are legal permanent residents, naturalized citizens, they feel under threat, too. but they the sentiment that they often say is, we're here because our parents cannot be. and the thing that can't be stressed enough, as somebody who lives in la, has lived here for over a decade, has been covering immigration from la for well over a decade. is that la, probably more than any other american city, is a place where the immigrant population, and specifically the undocumented immigrant population, is deeply, profoundly embedded in the fabric of the city. undocumented people work every imaginable job. they go to churches, they send their kids to schools they work in, in every imaginable industry in this larger metro area. and the reason that these raids that we saw happen over the last couple of weeks triggered this kind of very

natural response from people like the young woman you just saw me talk to is not just because they were arresting undocumented immigrants, it's because of the way they carried them out. they were going to work places like home depot, parking lots, car washes, garment factories where people like their parents have been working for, for, for years or even decades. and they did so, you know, as essentially sort of unmarked, unidentified paramilitary forces, heavily armed faces covered, refusing to answer questions about who they were or where people were going. and on top of that, many of the people who were detained spent many days unable to contact their loved ones, unable to contact their lawyers. that is what has triggered this in this city. and it's very specific to this city and the national guard troops that i showed you earlier are what poured gasoline on the flames. stephanie. >> david. thank you. i just want to make a quick correction. the woman david was speaking to said that president trump has been convicted of 47 felonies. the correct answer is 34. i also want to read a statement just i.

are you going to take a breath on this one? this is from house majority whip tom emmer, a republican from minnesota, and us senator amy klobuchar, a democrat from minnesota, releasing the following joint statement alongside the entire minnesota congressional delegation that includes senator tina smith, a democrat from minnesota. u.s. representative brad finstad, a republican from minnesota. angie craig, democrat. minnesota kelly morrison, a democrat betty mccollum, democrat. ilhan omar, democrat michelle fischbach, republican, minnesota. and pete stauber, republican. minnesota have released the following statement. quote, today we speak with one voice to express our outrage, grief and condemnation of this horrible attack on public servants. this is no place. there is no place in our democracy for politically motivated violence. we are praying for john and yvette's recovery, and we grieve the loss of melissa and mark with their

family, colleagues and minnesotans across the state. we're grateful for law enforcement's swift response to the situation and continued efforts and quote that statement being released. from lawmakers from the state of minnesota. as we await more information on the suspect, who is still at large. now, i'd like to welcome democratic representative from washington, adam smith. he's the democratic ranking member of the house armed services committee. i'm going to take a deep breath, congressman, because there's a lot to talk about today, none of which is good news. first, i just want to get your your thoughts about these horrible tragedies taking place in minnesota early today. >> well, it's terrifying. >> i mean, it is. >> a direct threat to our representative democracy. and we've seen an increase. in violent rhetoric, but. >> also. >> in acts of violence.

>> and i think everyone needs to be more careful about the rhetoric they. use and to condemn all of this. but, you know, and i'm i'm sorry. president trump. >> uses some of. >> the. >> worst rhetoric out there. >> and also. pardoning all of the. january 6th attackers of the us capitol just sends the wrong message on this. you know, we need to universally condemn political violence, whether it's coming from the right or the left. and frankly, i have not seen that from the trump administration. even, you know, he mused openly about pardoning the people who had attempted to kidnap the governor of michigan, that that creates an atmosphere of impunity that i think doesn't help what is already a very volatile situation. but mostly it's just a very terrifying thing for anyone involved in public politics to think that, you know, two elected state legislators could be targeted this way just because of the job that they are doing. >> but that's specifically what i want to ask you about, because it was just two days ago at that

press conference in los angeles, homeland security secretary kristi noem declared that federal troops are in california. they're in los angeles. i want to make sure i get it right to liberate the state and city from its elected leaders. does that not make you worried? when we have people that senior in government are talking about liberating a city from from duly elected lawmakers. and now look at the tragedy that's unfolded in minnesota. does that not make you worried, scared for your own personal safety? >> it makes me really angry more than anything, that people who are supposed to be upholding the us constitution and our representative democracy, which i am incredibly passionate about, would use that type of language against their federal elected officials. and one of your commentators was saying earlier, your reporters were saying earlier, it's almost as if donald trump views the united states military as his own personal guard. it's not almost.

it is. president trump is trying to turn the united states military into his personal police force. that's why los angeles is so dangerous and the rhetoric is so dangerous. look, the trump administration just does not think that laws, the constitution, any sort of norms apply to them. we need to stand up and push back against that peacefully and in large numbers and relentlessly. and that is what you are seeing happening today. but trump is attempting an authoritarian takeover of our government. and whether you're a democrat, republican, conservative, liberal, if you believe in representative democracy, you need to speak out against this loudly and relentlessly. >> you are a very centrist, practical lawmaker. how did we get to this place? think about the day that we're in, right? mass protests. no kings day across the country while there is a military parade taking place in washington and

lawmakers in the state of minnesota, i'll use tim walz words who were who faced politically motivated assassination at 2:00 this morning. what? how did we get here? >> yeah. no. look, in my approach, i've always said i am an excessively practical person. i've also often joked that on my tombstone it will say he was a reasonable person in an unreasonable world. i try to work with people. absolutely. we got here in a couple of different ways. one, there was a lot of concern in this country about the inequality that we have seen, the lack of opportunity, and it has frustrated people. but the second thing is the republican party has allowed itself to be taken over by the cult of donald trump. you know, whatever trump wants, whatever trump says, they just fall in line, which is not the way this is supposed to work. and president trump has driven an incredibly negative viewpoint. i mean, the american carnage speech that he gave back in 2017 when he was sworn in to

be president in the first place. he has created an apocalyptic tone that has united the right wing in following him. and just normal stuff that would happen. we had pete hegseth before the house armed services committee this week. and, you know, we i gave a very impassioned opening statement about things. i disagreed with. a number of my democratic colleagues gave very strong statements on a wide range of issues. the politicization of the military, certainly pete hegseth mistakes in the signal gate controversy. and what really struck me about that five hour hearing is pete hegseth looked back at us like he couldn't have possibly cared less. anything that we had to say. he feels he is that unaccountable, that no matter what, as long as he's loyal to trump, he'll keep his job and he'll keep getting support. and that is not what normally happens on the armed services committee i've been through. after democrat and republican presidents, countless secretaries of defense of both parties, we've certainly had disagreements, but there's always been a sense of response

of, yes, we're going to work on that. you know, he just looked like he didn't care because he knew trump would back him up no matter what. that's not the way our country is supposed to function. whether you're a conservative or liberal, democrat or republican, this isn't a partizan issue. it's about accountability and the rule of law. >> it's not normal, but it's where we are. so where do we go from here? >> well, where do we go from here is we push back. we push back peacefully. look, you know, we've had many movements in this country, a lot of progressive movements that have been successful in the face of long odds. we had the gilded age back in the 19th century, and it took a long time and a lot of efforts and a lot of organization to push back against that and put in place a number of progressive laws, like the income tax, like the fair labor standards act, standards act, antitrust laws. the new deal made a huge difference to the american people. the great society during lyndon johnson's era gave us medicare, medicaid, the civil rights act. all of that happened because of what the images that

you're showing on your screen right now, because people rose up and made the case to go in a different direction, not violently, but peacefully, relentlessly and in large numbers. that's what has to happen. and we have to grow the group of people who are supporting us. you know, we can clearly say that a lot of people who voted for trump did not vote for people being disappeared off our streets by masked men who do not identify themselves and sent to prisons in places like el salvador and libya. they didn't vote for that. they didn't vote for that type of overreach from the federal government. they didn't vote for a tariff policy that's sinking our economy. they didn't vote for what donald trump is doing. we have to make that case grow. the number of people who are willing to stand up against him, push back and create a better future, and also offer that better future. and i think we're starting to see that happening. >> congressman, thank you so much for joining us this afternoon. i appreciate it. >> thanks, stephanie. i appreciate the chance.

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maggie, take us back to 2 a.m. this morning. what? i shouldn't say what, exactly? because there's still so much we don't know based on the information we do have. walk us through what happened in the last 18 hours. >> right. in the last 18 hours, steph. i mean, essentially, this manhunt has just ratcheted up so many levels, as police are all, say, legitimate law enforcement became aware that the shooter in both of these, what they're calling politically targeted attacks, was impersonating, and they believe very well still may be impersonating law enforcement himself, showing up to the homes of representative melissa hortman and senator john hoffman in the early morning hours dressed like a police officer. long sleeved, button up blue shirt, tactical vest, utility belt with a dark suv with lights and sirens on the top and knocking on their door again well before dawn. it's pitch black outside. they believe both of those democratic elected officials answered the door,

thinking they were opening their home to a police officer, only to be ambushed, only to be shot several times. i want to bring you this breaking update in the last hour, three people familiar with the investigation have confirmed that vance boelter, a 57 year old man from green isle, minnesota, is the person they are looking for. there's his photo there. in connection with both of these early morning shootings. he's the guy still at large. he's the guy that authorities are still looking for on the ground surrounding these two homes. and in the broader kind of suburban area outside of minneapolis, this shelter in place order is still in effect. you've seen police, you just saw them in tactical gear on the ground, going door to door, warning people to only answer the door to pairs of police officers, or if they come to your door in three groups of three or more, knowing that this guy is acting alone but may still look like a police officer. so a lot of fear on the ground, a lot of instruction on the ground. there was a press

conference moments ago from police letting people know kind of as much as they can about the search that's going on at this moment. here's here's part of what police had to say. listen to this. >> we have thousands of people sheltered in place in the city of brooklyn park right now. we are in an extensive manhunt involving hundreds and hundreds of police officers and swat teams searching, gridding off areas as we believe confidently that the suspect had fled out the back of the house after being confronted by the police. >> we're talking about senator john hoffman's home there. if we can bring up the video from our affiliate showing his front door, this is what our affiliate, the reporters at kare 11 in minneapolis, found. look at that. several bullet holes in the front door of minnesota senator john hoffman's home. he and his wife, yvette, were shot multiple times. they're the two that survived this shooting, officials say, having gone into surgery at a local hospital and local officials saying they're cautiously optimistic they'll survive. but you can see just how how brazen, how many gunshots. and we can't know specifically. some of that may

be shrapnel, according to our law enforcement analysts. but multiple gunshots, suffice it to say, into this family's home in the middle of the night. and then finally, steph, one more kind of detail that has authorities really on edge, given everything going on across the country. if we can bring up the photo of the pieces of paper that minnesota state patrol tweeted out earlier today showing dozens of pieces of paper there, they are saying no kings on them. so they tweeted this photo out warning people to be careful at the know kings protests and rallies across minnesota, all of which have, by the way, since been canceled statewide, saying that this is what they found in the suv that they believe was being driven by the suspect, who we now know to be vance boelter. they say that he ditched his suv, took off on foot, and at one point was confronted by police and exchanged gunfire with them. so because of those signs that were found, because of also a list of other elected officials that were that was found in that car, and police are now at their homes checking on them to make sure everyone's okay. they said

earlier they wanted the area to be on guard. they wanted people attending these rallies that have since been canceled on guard, not necessarily naming any kind of specific motive, not naming the others who were on that list, but really starting to paint a picture. steph, of just all of the fear and the panic that that's, you know, playing out in this suburban area outside of minneapolis this morning as this manhunt continues on. >> but to be clear, the signs in the car or the papers in the car that read no kings, we do not know if that meant vance was looking to participate in a no kings protest or potentially target people who we are. we were. all we know is those papers were were were located inside his car. correct? >> exactly, exactly. we know that's what was found. and that's all minnesota state patrol has said, is this is what we found in the car along with the list. and again, it's key because we've been asked who else was on that list. authorities aren't saying at this point, but law enforcement,

they have said, have gone to the homes of the others who were named. we don't know the common thread between those other lawmakers, whether they were all democrats, whether they all had something else in common, necessarily. what we know so far is two democrats have been targeted. police have a list with other names. they found them alongside those know kings, and we've been calling them fliers, but that they're pretty crude, obviously just pieces of paper. and because of that, all of those rallies across minnesota today were canceled. and this manhunt really just took off. steph. >> maggie, thank you so much. please stay close. join us again when you get when and if you get any updates, i want to take you back to los angeles now, where my friend and colleague jacob soboroff is standing by. jacob, you have been there for these protests starting last week. you made your way up further to northern california just a few days ago, where potential undocumented immigrants were being targeted, working in farms. and now there you are, back in downtown la, walking

with the protesters. what can you tell us? >> let me just. >> give you a little. >> picture of what's going on here. >> this has. >> been the hub. >> of the. >> civic center stuff. this is the hub of the civic center, where the protests have been centered over the course of the last week. let me just turn around here to show you what's going on behind. people are coming. >> that's los angeles city hall. >> i heard when mayor karen bass was speaking. >> to you earlier. she said she believes there's as many as. 20,000 people on. >> the streets. >> of. >> los angeles. >> right now. >> many of them at this. >> moment are congregating over the 101 freeway, where just a couple. >> of days. >> ago, the scene was not one that was particularly peaceful. but right now, this feels like a very large party. let's see if we can sneak our way in here and make our way to the front on the overpass over the freeway. oops. don't worry, i'm okay. take a look at this. guys. this is the 101 freeway and surrounding the freeway on all sides. peaceful protesters waving flags. >> of the united. >> states of mexico. >> signs that. >> are encouraging. >> ice. >> to get out of los angeles. ice melts right here.

>> it says. >> what's up? how are you? thank you very much. how are you feeling to be out here right now? oh, got my kids right here. you brought your kids? that's right. they're right here. 25, 25 years old, right here. army. this is. right here. is that how you feel? hell, yeah. so you're an army veteran, right? and when you see these guys on the streets right now, how does it make you feel? what do you think? we have amendments that we can. >> go after. >> after this? let's hope that this is the right thing to do. otherwise, we're just being peaceful right now. let's just hope this is the way it stays. introduce me to your children. where's your children? hey, come on over here. what's your name? >> kiani. >> kiani? i'm jacob. it's nice to meet you. >> hi. >> have you ever come to a protest before? >> yeah. >> what does it feel like to be out here? your dad said he. >> was. >> in the army. he doesn't like seeing those soldiers on the streets while isis here in town, raiding communities all over la. >> i mean, it feels good. like i'm happy i'm doing something for my people. >> so for your people, how do you feel? what's your name? >> jessica. nez. >> have you ever been out to a

protest like this before? >> no, just this one. >> you guys must be proud of your dad. >> yep. >> i bet you're proud of your daughters. oh, i am very proud of them. listen, keep keep up the good work. i love what you guys are doing. maybe you can be right here if this continues. la's not gonna let her go. we are here. they have to realize that no one came to this country. country came to us. we are here. we're going to. we're not going anywhere, okay? we serve this country right here. look, i'll give. i'll give my life to this country. but we got to do it right. not for this jerk, not for this guy. i appreciate you, thank you. thank you so much for saying hello. really nice to see you. all right, guys. >> steph. >> you know, the reason i think that this is so personal to so many people. >> is that this is a city. >> that is a majority, a majority. >> minority city. there are more. >> people of color, mostly. >> latinos, in los angeles and. >> in the state of california than white folks at this point. and in a county with. >> 10 million people. >> that could have a population of. >> 1 million. >> undocumented immigrants. this is very personal for so many

people. i'm just going to keep walking. steph, talk to me for a second. i wanna make sure i can still hear you. go ahead. >> jacob, tell me you are there. this is obviously an emotionally charged day. you've been there for the last week. you were there last saturday when things did turn violent. would you describe today as violent in any way? would you call these protesters rioters? >> in no way, shape or form. stephanie, these are peaceful protesters. guys, can i see what your sign says? we're live on msnbc. immigrants, palestinians, resistance are not the enemy. don't let the ruling class tell you who the enemies are. libertad. para todos for everybody. liberty and justice for all. liberty and justice for all. how does it feel to be out here over the one on one, with all these people honking in support of you guys? >> it feels good to know. >> i mean, there's no. >> reason for all this. i mean, it's unlawful. >> we can't. >> have a president who's. >> a. >> felon, honestly. >> i mean, these. >> are people. who have been here. they provide for us, not just labor, but they're human beings. they deserve rights. >> thank you so much. what's

your name? >> leilani. >> how about. >> you, noemi? >> i'm jacob. it's nice to meet you guys. thank you very much. listen, there's some salty language out here, steph, but feelings are running high and they're running hot. but i'll tell you one thing right now. this is a peaceful protest. if i have ever seen one. this is where. you know, some of those troublemakers were over the course of the last week or so, stopping traffic on the freeway, clashing with the riot police from the california highway patrol down there. that is not the scene right now. that is not what is happening out here. they want ice out of la and they're making no mistake about that. stephanie. >> so yes, i do want to apologize to our audience about that. profanity. clearly emotions are running hot today with those protesters out there. jacob, i see lots of demonstrators with you. where's law enforcement? i haven't seen any in in, in as you walk, as you're walking, i don't see any law enforcement. so, so give us some more. >> details, please. yeah. so let's go over this way. this is the intersection of aliso and spring street in the shadow of los angeles city hall. a bunch of these protesters have gone in

all different directions and sort of scattered, but it seems like there's a significant contingent that has gone. let's watch out for the truck here. but we have gone down aliso street. i'll let this guy pass, and then i'll show you the metropolitan detention center. why don't we walk jb down here, the metropolitan detention center. stephanie, where so many of the protests have taken place, where the rally for david huerta when he was released from custody, the union leader from the service employees international union, who was injured in a scuffle with law enforcement, that's all been sort of the center here. and as you can see, there are the black and whites are los angeles police department officers. they seem to be dressed in their tactical gear, as they have been throughout the duration of this, of this protest and, frankly, of the national guard's presence on the streets of los angeles. and what ultimately is happening here is that because the national guard is at that building, that is the federal building here in downtown los

angeles. the national guard troops have been put by president trump against the wishes of the governor of california and the mayor of los angeles. in between these protesters and the national guard, i can tell you that many people have said that's part of the problem, that the people on the streets here, you hear the chants, it's about ice. it's about getting ice out of los angeles. they don't like that the national guard is here as well. on that mission directed by the president. and so the police department ends up in between the national guard and the protesters that are out here. but none of what we have seen. what? are you okay? hi. hi. tell me your name. >> i'm laura. >> how do you feel to be out here? >> i feel. >> really proud of my community. >> stepping up, especially with everything. >> that's going on. >> and is this your first day coming out to protest? >> it is. yes. >> so, you know, you obviously feel like you got some skin in the game. what is it specifically that brings you out protesting on behalf of someone? >> yes. and also because this is against the constitution, i feel. >> like it's deeper.

>> than just deporting immigrants. it's going against our rights as people and especially as american citizens. >> when you say, thank you very much, nice to meet you. tell me your name again, laura. nice to meet you. when she says against the constitution, that's also what judge breyer said in that ruling step, that the 10th amendment has been violated. you know, the appeals court ultimately has to stay on this right now, the returning of the national guard back to the control of governor gavin newsom. but the judge says that what the president did in some respect is unconstitutional. it violates the separation of powers to put the national guard under the control of the president instead of under the control of the governor. and governor newsom told me directly that he believes that because they didn't coordinate with his office that was violating the constitution of the united states. and it's interesting to hear so many people out here say they're here not just to defend the rights of immigrants, but they're here as well to defend the constitution. and mayor bass has said to me and many others that she believes that this is a test case in los angeles for what president trump might do to usurp the authority from the states, potentially to violate the constitution elsewhere. and you're watching sort of the petri dish of that and democracy

unfold right now in los angeles. >> you yourself are a native angeleno. you are los angeles. i'm going to say favorite son. but in all seriousness, this city has experienced people being snatched off the street this week. what kind of impact has this had on on not just the people you're speaking to, but on you personally? >> i said yesterday on the air, i think i was talking to nicole. literally everybody. and let's just get a look. can i squeeze in guys just so i can show what's going on down there? everybody's head has been on a swivel. i don't mean to take you away. come on over. and maybe i'll just. i mean, i can even ask some of these folks. have you been looking around? i was saying to. i'm live on msnbc. what's your name? >> nicole. >> nicole. i was saying to my friend stephanie ruhle that everybody's head in l.a. feels like it's been on a swivel. you don't know where ice is going to pop up next. you don't know where enforcement is going to happen. do you feel that way?

>> yes, i definitely do. being a daughter of immigrants, i feel like i need to show up and stand up and fight for what's right. no, we have a country to honor, and everything that's happening right now is very unjust, and that's why we're here. we're the voice for those that cannot be heard, and that's why we're standing up. it's a privilege. >> you said you're the child of immigrants. are your mom and dad undocumented? >> no they're not. >> and so, you know, there are so many people in this city, in this county that are it's part of the reason i think. i mean, people are so proud of their heritage. i think there was a lot of criticism out there from stephen miller and the people on the right. why are there mexican flags? this is a city where there are many mexican americans, as you know, white folks these days, people of color. why don't people understand that across the country, do you think and what's the impact of that? >> i honestly feel that it's lack of education. i mean, how can we sit here and act like, what's wrong, what's going on is not wrong. but i feel like it's really, again, lack of education. u.s. history is free. we learned it in high school. we learned it in college. so pick up a book and educate yourself. google is free as well. it's just ignorance. if they choose not to listen to education, the

facts are in the book. the amendments are in the constitution and that's it. that's all i have to say. >> respect. thank you. it's nice to meet you. likewise. it's i have to say, you know, having been out here and having been in some of the sort of contentious gatherings, this feeling could not be more different. and to hear people really have deep conversations right now about the constitution of the united states, about the population of this city, the pride that people here have. it is not the picture being painted by president trump. kristi noem said she needs to liberate los angeles from the socialists. when she was at that event that alex padilla was taken down and put into handcuffs at. does this look like a city that needs liberating? you know, it's not a question for me to answer, but i think everybody out there can make up their own minds. and to your point, it has put this city on edge. it has put this city. it has struck fear into the heart of this city. so many people, like many of the folks that i've talked to since i've been on the air with you just over the course of the last several minutes. this is real. this is about their families. this is about their city, our city. this is about their

neighbors and their friends and their family members and their fellow parishioners and their classmates. this is not about some scary foreign population or being or other. this is about the populace of this city, the populace of this county and the populace of this state taking very personally what the trump administration has done here, because this state wouldn't run without the people that we're talking about right now in this country, wouldn't either. and we talked about that as well. when we went out to the farms, when we went to the home depot, we talked to the day laborers. this is the fourth largest economy in the world, and we're talking about billions and billions and billions of dollars generated for this nation by the people that president trump, trump is talking about. and stephen miller is talking about his invaders. >> it's not us to tell people how to feel. but i'm looking at the signs behind you resist with pride. our existence is resistance. it's our job. you're doing it for us. this week you are taking us to the farm, to the parking lot, to the streets of los angeles to show our

audience exactly what is happening. and the most important thing all americans can be right now is informed and engaged, and you are helping us do that. jacob, thank you for being with us. we're going to have more. we're going to have more. from the protests in philadelphia and new york city, right on the other side of the break. stick around. >> and lumber liquidators, we have great prices on flooring, but more importantly, we have great people in our stores. we are flooring experts that will help you get the right floor at the right price for any room in your home. flooring is all we do. it will help you every step of the way, from selection to installation. >> like luxe waterproof flooring with an easy click installation system. on sale now for a special price of just $0.99 a square foot. >> lumberliquidators.com. tell them tom sent. >> you work. play. blink. relief. work.

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231231. >> welcome back. you're watching msnbc's breaking news coverage as we are following no king's day protests across the country. i want to bring in erin mclaughlin. she joins us now from philadelphia. erin, give us an update where you are. >> hey, stephanie. >> well, just a short. >> while ago, the rally concluded. capping off what was an extremely peaceful event. thousands of people taking to the streets for the march, then followed by the rally. a consistent theme throughout was outrage at the trump administration and the administration's policies there

at the rally. staying behind to speak with us is rose and cynthia rose. you came all the way from delaware to be here today. cynthia, you're from the area. how did it go? >> amazing. >> yeah. to be. >> honest, it felt it felt kind. >> of like closure. >> in a way. not all the. >> way, but i feel like it's more closure. i feel like everyone has a voice today, and i feel like. i feel like a lot of voices have been heard today, and especially with. >> all the. >> support that we're getting, i feel like it's. >> definitely been. >> it's been like it's been a crazy day. it's really been a crazy day. i'm just happy that everyone came out and, you know, was peaceful with it and no one was causing any ruckus. might have like 1 or 2 like people or like trying to, like, you know, antagonize. but we just ignore and carry on. i'm really surprised. i mean, it's, it's philadelphia city of brotherly love. so it's like i'm originally from here and i didn't move to delaware three years ago, but i always come here. >> and is. >> that why did you come

specifically for this event? >> yeah. >> and what what is your message? >> so for my message. >> is that i. >> just want. >> people to be united. i'm tired of living in fear. i'm puerto rican, she's puerto rican, mexican. i'm tired of, like, the hate against. like we're criminals. i see news back in puerto rico of us citizens, and we're being treated like we're also second class citizens. so i just want peace. i just want to, like. >> want to be united again. >> pretty much. we all want to be united again. i feel like this is not the america that we all know, and we all like love and that we all like, you know, do we pledge. the flag to and everything. so and i come from a family of immigrants too. and, you know, my grandfather was an immigrant. my mom was too. and they have fought like their lives, like their entire lives to provide for their family. >> and so these policies are deeply personal. >> oh, for sure, 100%. i feel like it's i just feel like it's just a slap in the face to me and to my family.

>> what was the point. >> where you thought, i. >> need to. >> take to the streets? was it a specific. >> policy. a specific action? >> everything? to be honest, it's just everything from the first. >> election. >> from the very first term. and then now i feel like at this point it's just i feel like it's just unraveling. it's just it's starting to unravel to the point where i feel like we all have to use our voice at this point. >> and how about you? was there a specific policy, a specific action, and what you thought you had to. >> take to? so i used to be a maternity technician, and abortion rights is like one of the biggest things for me and even mother rights. i mean, the mom comes first. i know you guys want to save the baby, but it's like once the baby is here, you forgot about the kid. it's there. and it's like out the window, basically. so. >> so many issues. issues so much. i really, really appreciate your time. stephanie. just a sampling of some of the conversations i've been having here in philadelphia. back to you. thank you.

>> and we're now on the breaking news from minnesota. the deadly attacks at the homes of two state politicians, and new reaction from the bipartisan congressional delegation. republicans and democrats coming together to condemn the attacks, saying there is no place in our democracy for politically motivated violence. minnesota senator amy klobuchar joins us now by phone. senator klobuchar, what a day this must be for you. first, what is your understanding of what happened at the homes of these two lawmakers this morning? and i'm i'm so sorry for you and your colleagues. >> you know. >> stephanie. >> this really isn't about us. >> it is about. >> these incredible legislators. >> melissa is someone. >> that i wish the whole nation knew. we treasured her in minnesota. >> you know, she. >> grew up in a working class suburb. she went away to college. she came back and met her husband and worked at her

dad's auto parts store and then got involved. she's a girl scout leader, taught sunday school. i got to know her when we were both in politics, starting out in local offices, in the legislature for her county, for me with kids. she had two young kids at the time. she loved dogs and she was this leader like no other. she worked in a practically tied legislature and got a budget done. at the end of this year, she, along with the governor and our other legislative leaders, was able to usher through school lunches and family leave and stood up for women's rights. and but mostly, it's just a time of mourning for us. it's a shock. many of us were with her last night at a dinner in minnesota, and then the other legislators also love. we hope he's going to survive. he and his wife were shot

several times. stories out there. i haven't verified that the wife was protecting their daughter who had spina bifida, and that was why he got involved in politics. so that's our first thing. and the second thing we're focused on is the supporting law enforcement as they work to apprehend this murderer, this madman. and it is an all out effort going on in our state at this time. so it's kind of hard to go to the next level while, you know, we united on with our representative mccollum and congressman emmer and senator smith and our entire delegation, we united on a statement to condemn the violence regardless of people's ideologies. i got to be honest, right now, all i'm thinking about is our family and making sure more people don't get killed. >> what are you hearing from investigators about the danger that still lingers in brooklyn

park? thousands of people are sheltering in place, and this man in question is potentially dressed as a police officer. >> exactly. so what? they've told everyone. and this was smart. they're first of all, they ended up at melissa's home because the other legislators, they were there because he and his wife had been shot. and they thought, we better go check on this other home. and that's how they were able to at least get in a gunfight with him. and you are correct. by all accounts, he was dressed as law enforcement. so what law enforcement has said is that don't answer your door to one police officer. we will always be in pairs. so that is a way that they are trying to let people know, and they're doing everything they can to reduce that fear. but of course, there's rampant fear because this guy showed he was able to soup up a car like a police car. he clearly was able to talk through the door to these somehow to these legislators and

could talk the talk. and he must be just as evil as they can be. but right now they're trying to track him down. so we literally many of us just follow these legislators and see them on a daily basis. and so that is we're in a period of stunned by this violence, doing everything we can. you know those i was just hearing the interview about the no kings rallies, which seem like people are turning out in droves across the country. we've actually been recommending the governor and i and others that if people they can go if they want, but we're recommending they not go in minnesota because law enforcement has to be focused on apprehending this killer. >> it's extraordinary. they simply answered their door at 2 a.m. >> what the. >> you know, we don't know all the. >> details. yes, some. i just know i found out at about five

in the morning from the governor when he called me and texted me about what had happened. >> and have you heard anything? all we have thus far is the name of the potential suspect, vance boelter. do you know anything more besides his name? i don't apologize for putting you. >> i'm not going to. i understand, but i'm just not going to comment on the rumors of it all. and. and that until the law enforcement comes out and clearly says who it is and whatever information they think would be helpful, because, again, we our main focus right now, he's not apprehended. >> do you feel like you and fell members of congress are going to have to take more measures to ensure your safety? governor tim walz talks about this as a politically motivated assassination. that's a that's a phrase. that's a term we don't hear every day. >> well, that's what it was. and we know there's been an increase

in threats against members of congress. i formerly chaired the rules committee of the us senate. so i saw those numbers all the time. thousands and thousands more threats than we've had in the past. and i have been a strong advocate for getting more resources in for the judiciary, for electeds, simply because and i've also been an advocate for people being able to maintain their privacy, because this has been a nationwide scourge of threats against elected officials and judges. and, and election workers, you name it, that has been going on for the last decade, and it just keeps getting worse. and this is fbi data that i've seen and has been made public. >> it's extraordinary, the data. >> we have made changes in congress to allow people to better protect themselves, but there still needs to be more

security in my mind. >> are you going to change your security protocol for yourself and your team? >> well, they've changed it in our state for all the electeds right now, they have made law enforcement has been very good about that, which is another reason we're urging people just to, you know, try to focus on the safety of trying to get this madman off the street right now. >> and i do want to ask you, before you go about the other, obviously, big news that we're covering today, the no kings day protest. while they're not taking place in minnesota, they are taking place across almost all 50 states on the same day that the white house is hosting a military parade in honor of the 250th anniversary of the armed forces and potentially the president's birthday. how do you look at what's happening across the country today? >> well, i have some very strong views about what this president

has done. i've made that clear of not respecting the law of, you know, creating havoc everywhere he goes with the economy. i'm glad they're doing the rallies. i think they're very important. i just talked to senator schumer, who is one of the people who was behind these, and he said there were huge crowds in new york. but honestly, he was calling because of what happened in minnesota. and so my thought right now is on minnesota, and it's on the fact that we have a madman that's still out there that needs to be apprehended, and making sure that people of my state follow the advice of law enforcement, the ones that have been told to shelter in place, stay sheltered in place, the ones that have been told, please try to stay away. the rallies just in minnesota until he's apprehended, that people listen to that and that people cherish the memories of these incredible elected officials. we've had local newscasters that just nearly broke down in tears

talking about what decent people these two are. one is left us as well as her husband, but the other is still hanging on to life. so that's where our mind is. and, you know, people can take with those stories what they may in terms of elected officials in their own state, but it is clearly a moment where we can once again make so clear in very regardless of political ideology, that there is no place for political violence and people, whatever they put up online and all of the anger and all of the lies that are out there, of course this is in the back of my mind, but in the front of my mind as we got to get this guy off the street. >> senator klobuchar, thank you so much for joining us today, and i am so sorry. appreciate it for what you and your state are facing. and a reminder, we are expecting an update from law enforcement at the top of the hour, specifically about the minnesota shooting two. stay

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